From: Struan Donald Date: 23:13 on 26 Sep 2007 Subject: symantec firewall I might be a bit old fashioned but I've always thought the point of firewalls was to stop software on other computers connecting to my computer (or network but let's not run just yet). Symantec seems to find this rather a narrow definition and is keen to stop software on my computer connecting to other computers. And hey, this is windows so perhaps a bit of extra caution is required. What is galling is being told that php has tried to connect to the internet and has been blocked when the internet is the mysql server running on the _same_ machine. Can you not tell the difference between the internet and localhost? Could you just not be arsed to make an exception? Even more galling is the fact that there's no way to say connections to localhost are fine so you have to allow every single program one at a time... gah! Struan
From: Robert Rothenberg Date: 09:39 on 27 Sep 2007 Subject: Re: symantec firewall ------=_Part_24_21428250.1190882349682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 26/09/2007, Struan Donald <struan@xxx.xxx.xx> wrote: > > I might be a bit old fashioned but I've always thought the point of > firewalls was to stop software on other computers connecting to my > computer (or network but let's not run just yet). > > Symantec seems to find this rather a narrow definition and is keen to > stop software on my computer connecting to other computers. And hey, > this is windows so perhaps a bit of extra caution is required. The point of firewalls is to keep certain kinds of traffic from crossing the firewall, in or out. In this case, your computer is a network of one. [...] > Even more galling is the fact that there's no way to say connections > to localhost are fine so you have to allow every single program one > at a time... gah! Hateful! ------=_Part_24_21428250.1190882349682 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 26/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Struan Donald</b> <<a href="mailto:struan@xxx.xxx.xx">struan@xxx.xxx.xx</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I might be a bit old fashioned but I've always thought the point of<br>firewalls was to stop software on other computers connecting to my<br>computer (or network but let's not run just yet).<br><br>Symantec seems to find this rather a narrow definition and is keen to <br>stop software on my computer connecting to other computers. And hey,<br>this is windows so perhaps a bit of extra caution is required.</blockquote><div><br>The point of firewalls is to keep certain kinds of traffic from crossing the firewall, in or out. In this case, your computer is a network of one. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">[...]<br>Even more galling is the fact that there's no way to say connections <br>to localhost are fine so you have to allow every single program one<br>at a time... gah!</blockquote><div><br>Hateful! <br></div></div><br><br> ------=_Part_24_21428250.1190882349682--
From: Michael G Schwern Date: 12:50 on 27 Sep 2007 Subject: Re: symantec firewall Struan Donald wrote: > I might be a bit old fashioned but I've always thought the point of > firewalls was to stop software on other computers connecting to my > computer (or network but let's not run just yet). > > Symantec seems to find this rather a narrow definition and is keen to > stop software on my computer connecting to other computers. And hey, > this is windows so perhaps a bit of extra caution is required. Yes, Windows has introduced the hateful concept of blocking OUTGOING ports to prevent virus laden machines from spreading their ooze.
From: Philip Newton Date: 13:23 on 27 Sep 2007 Subject: Re: symantec firewall On 9/27/07, Michael G Schwern <schwern@xxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Yes, Windows has introduced the hateful concept of blocking OUTGOING ports to > prevent virus laden machines from spreading their ooze. Or nosy software "phoning home" with juicy data about users' machines. Which is also hateful. Cheers,
From: Peter da Silva Date: 03:59 on 29 Sep 2007 Subject: Re: symantec firewall You could stop with the subject line. Symantec Firewall, Zone Alarm, the "enhanced" firewall in Vista, all these things are sacks of worthless bile and rotting maggots. Do not use these programs lest you be consumed by hate.
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